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	<title>Comments on: Google reads Flash &#8230; sort of</title>
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	<description>Web design, search engine optimization and Internet marketing</description>
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		<title>By: Diane Vigil</title>
		<link>http://developedtraffic.com/2007/12/18/google-reads-flash-sort-of/#comment-35309</link>
		<dc:creator>Diane Vigil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Rich. Okay ... so did your web designer say that Flash is bad for SEO efforts, or *any* use of Flash at all?

I find that this is a generalization that is not true. But what do I know? ;) 

It&#039;s very much like the difference between using images on a site versus a site composed of pages with nothing but images.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Rich. Okay &#8230; so did your web designer say that Flash is bad for SEO efforts, or *any* use of Flash at all?</p>
<p>I find that this is a generalization that is not true. But what do I know? ;) </p>
<p>It's very much like the difference between using images on a site versus a site composed of pages with nothing but images.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich in Dallas</title>
		<link>http://developedtraffic.com/2007/12/18/google-reads-flash-sort-of/#comment-35281</link>
		<dc:creator>Rich in Dallas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Feb 2008 16:07:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really like flash, however my designer always told me that it would be horrible for my SEO efforts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really like flash, however my designer always told me that it would be horrible for my SEO efforts.</p>
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		<title>By: Diane Vigil</title>
		<link>http://developedtraffic.com/2007/12/18/google-reads-flash-sort-of/#comment-34364</link>
		<dc:creator>Diane Vigil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 01:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, and let&#039;s note that this is about &lt;strong&gt;all-Flash websites&lt;/strong&gt;. Using bits of Flash in the right places has never been a problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, and let's note that this is about <strong>all-Flash websites</strong>. Using bits of Flash in the right places has never been a problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Cole Haan</title>
		<link>http://developedtraffic.com/2007/12/18/google-reads-flash-sort-of/#comment-34363</link>
		<dc:creator>Cole Haan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 01:17:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that this is a huge step in the right direction for Adobe. Search Engine Optimization was a strong legitimate argument one can have against Flash. Soon, that will all change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that this is a huge step in the right direction for Adobe. Search Engine Optimization was a strong legitimate argument one can have against Flash. Soon, that will all change.</p>
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		<title>By: Diane Vigil</title>
		<link>http://developedtraffic.com/2007/12/18/google-reads-flash-sort-of/#comment-29974</link>
		<dc:creator>Diane Vigil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 07:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I get it.

My thought, too, is that usually pages on a Flash website share the same layout; still, you might have to sit through seconds upon seconds of something drawing something out, along with sound effects, in order to get the page content --- and this is on every page. Thing is, once I&#039;ve clicked on a link, it&#039;s clear you&#039;ve got my interest --- so it&#039;s time to stop the drawing and sound effects and just let me get to the content.

At least, that&#039;s my thought. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I get it.</p>
<p>My thought, too, is that usually pages on a Flash website share the same layout; still, you might have to sit through seconds upon seconds of something drawing something out, along with sound effects, in order to get the page content &#8212; and this is on every page. Thing is, once I've clicked on a link, it's clear you've got my interest &#8212; so it's time to stop the drawing and sound effects and just let me get to the content.</p>
<p>At least, that's my thought. :)</p>
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		<title>By: Chloe Baby</title>
		<link>http://developedtraffic.com/2007/12/18/google-reads-flash-sort-of/#comment-29973</link>
		<dc:creator>Chloe Baby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 07:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, with broadband speed increasing, its fine, but so does the size of flash sites, and they still seem to be so much slower than html.

Also with ajax and mootools (and other js effects libs) you can now acomplish quite alot without resorting to flash. 

*last moan* - when will flash actually push the browser scroll bar down, and not having to scroll text within the flash .swf itself ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, with broadband speed increasing, its fine, but so does the size of flash sites, and they still seem to be so much slower than html.</p>
<p>Also with ajax and mootools (and other js effects libs) you can now acomplish quite alot without resorting to flash. </p>
<p>*last moan* &#8211; when will flash actually push the browser scroll bar down, and not having to scroll text within the flash .swf itself ?</p>
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		<title>By: Diane Vigil</title>
		<link>http://developedtraffic.com/2007/12/18/google-reads-flash-sort-of/#comment-29924</link>
		<dc:creator>Diane Vigil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 23:28:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Chloe. I can&#039;t disagree with you. While I happen to like the judicious use of Flash, I find whole-Flash websites annoying and difficult to use, including the download time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Chloe. I can't disagree with you. While I happen to like the judicious use of Flash, I find whole-Flash websites annoying and difficult to use, including the download time.</p>
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		<title>By: Chloe Baby</title>
		<link>http://developedtraffic.com/2007/12/18/google-reads-flash-sort-of/#comment-29904</link>
		<dc:creator>Chloe Baby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 21:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The main point i think thats been missed here, is why on earth would anyone make a site entirely from flash anyway ? 

Surely that would be the most idiotic thing ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The main point i think thats been missed here, is why on earth would anyone make a site entirely from flash anyway ? </p>
<p>Surely that would be the most idiotic thing ever.</p>
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		<title>By: Diane Vigil</title>
		<link>http://developedtraffic.com/2007/12/18/google-reads-flash-sort-of/#comment-27514</link>
		<dc:creator>Diane Vigil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 20:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Todd. Yes, I know that it&#039;s possible to optimize Flash for search engines.

My comments were based on the &lt;a href=&quot;http://forums.searchenginewatch.com/showthread.php?t=5444&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;Can Google read Flash content?&lt;/a&gt; thread at the SearchEngineWatch forums:

&lt;blockquote&gt;According to Mike Grehan&#039;s interviews with Google staff, Google can read Flash - but generally doesn&#039;t care much for it due to little text content, which is important for document matching.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

That&#039;s just an indication that Google *was* reading Flash content. There&#039;s also the above quote from Matt Cutts, which indicates that Google *can* read actual Flash content (to whatever degree it can decipher that content).

While I like Flash, my personal thought is that a Flash-only site is not so great for users or search engine rankings, although you can do some things to optimize a Flash site for search engines.

What are your thoughts in this regard?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Todd. Yes, I know that it's possible to optimize Flash for search engines.</p>
<p>My comments were based on the <a href="http://forums.searchenginewatch.com/showthread.php?t=5444" target="_blank">Can Google read Flash content?</a> thread at the SearchEngineWatch forums:</p>
<blockquote><p>According to Mike Grehan's interviews with Google staff, Google can read Flash &#8211; but generally doesn't care much for it due to little text content, which is important for document matching.</p></blockquote>
<p>That's just an indication that Google *was* reading Flash content. There's also the above quote from Matt Cutts, which indicates that Google *can* read actual Flash content (to whatever degree it can decipher that content).</p>
<p>While I like Flash, my personal thought is that a Flash-only site is not so great for users or search engine rankings, although you can do some things to optimize a Flash site for search engines.</p>
<p>What are your thoughts in this regard?</p>
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		<title>By: Todd Gallant</title>
		<link>http://developedtraffic.com/2007/12/18/google-reads-flash-sort-of/#comment-27504</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd Gallant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 19:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google can not read flash or javascript... however it is possible to optimize flash and javascript based sites to get rankings</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google can not read flash or javascript&#8230; however it is possible to optimize flash and javascript based sites to get rankings</p>
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